Saturday, 26 June 2010

Aggregates, Aggrevates

Were you aware that "the Council is committed" to providing HALF-A-MILLION TONS of aggregates (gravel and ballast) , shared with Havering? Most of the proposed areas for additional mineral extraction are to the north of Forest Road (private sports grounds). Area 3 and 4 Councillors are on the case. There is a consultation exercise and you can support or reject the proposals (or state 'No Preference') by e-mail to no later than July 26th 2010.

This 'commitment' appears as a "Borough-Wide Primary Policy" in a Development Plan Document of May 2008.

This appears to follow on from a London Aggregates Working Party (LAWP) report that refers (para. 4.9) to a report on Redbridge (LAWP09/03) , which I am unable to locate on the Internet.

As most of the Club Groundsmen working on the north side of Forest Road well know, this area contains poor quality GRIT at a depth of 4 to 6 inches. Most grit nowadays is supplied from rock-crushing plants.

The document that is essential to the Consultation is now available on-line, having previously been blocked! Perish the thought that the Council would make it difficult for us to get hold of information!

You can send your responses by email: or using the Council’s freepost address at:

Minerals Development Plan:
Issues and Options,
Development Plan Document
London Borough of Redbridge
Ilford IG1 1DD


  1. Well, after all, Council Leader Cllr. Keith Prince has always "sold" himself with these words "I am a listening Councillor, this is a listening Council".
    If those words prove to be lies, then the man is a fraud.
    Consultation my ****

  2. ...and if the reason for these extractions is to generate money, (a) why are they being done in conjunction with Havering [what's the deal here?] and (b) this Council could have saved £30,000+ immediately simply by not paying out for the privilege of hosting this Sky Bike Ride in August.
    [I would suggest continuing vigillance regarding "mergers" between the two Councils, Redbridge and Havering: Redbridge's pensions office are about to move into premises in Romford, sharing Their pensions department].

    Also, let's see if Redbrodge follows Havering's practise of effectively axing Area Meetings ...well, reducing them to two per year.

  3. The "on-line" documents referred to in the blogpost now appear to be available to download, having previously been blocked.

  4. It seems that the GLA via the LAWP seems to have accepted an "apportionment" of raising 1 miilion tons of aggregates and it seems that 50% (i.e. half-a-million tons) is believed to be within the boundaries of Redbridge and Havering.

    There does not seem to have been any scientific basis for this but there has been a "expression of interest from the industry", presumably Brett Lafarge who are currently digging up Aldborough Hatch.

    More detailed explanations may be in this report LAWP09/03 which does not seem to have been archived on the Internet (at least, Google can't find it). Para. 4.10 of the LAWP minutes linked in the post contains an interesting comment regarding how important LAWP thinks this all is.

  5. The allotments along Fullwell Avenue are listed as possible source of gravel.
    Ah, if only they were also a source of water.
    Water for gardening is so expensive and some people are watering the ground instead of the growing area of the plants.
    Perhaps, should they wish to pre-drill for gravel assessment, they might come across water instead.
    A negative into a positive.
    What is puzzling me is that they built over our now defunct site across the road, without a thought for the wealth underneath.
    Or did they? And found nothing?

  6. Anne, for "possible source of gravel" read: "Definite source of gravel (we hope)"..... whatever, this is just step one in the process of turning these allotments into a site for housing, as they did with the other corners adjoining those crossroads.

  7. If there was gravel present, Anne, at a depth at which it could be economically extracted then the Alloments Holders would know because they would be digging through it.

    To my knowledge, none was located when the Clore Tikva School was built.

  8. From memory, in the leases issued many years ago authorising the land to be used as allotment gardening, there is a clause that we cannot do gravel extraction. I suppose that rules apply to some but not to others!

  9. I revise my figures from my second comment. In it I said that the Council could save £30,000+ by cancelling thr SkyRide.

    I now have the precise figures and the break-down for the SkyRide costs. Try £49,500 (and these figures were as at August 2009!).